Depression. What is the cause?

From:  "v_koa" <v_koa@yahoo.com>
Date:  Mon Feb 21, 2005  11:24 pm
Subject:  Depression. What is the cause?
 
I have been a chronically depressed person for years now, on and off,
both for long periods of time, and i always wondered what the cause
of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I can still remember
when i was care free and not depressed, but i can also remember when i began to become depressed and the experiences that contributed to
this condition. Medically they say its a chemical imbalance, but i
believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the physical, as
everything is spirit. I figure that like all diseases, it starts with
spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for sometime manifests
as disease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if anyone can shed
some light on what depression is and other related insights with
regards to depression.

Thankx

kyyan


Dear Kyyan

"Depression" can be a result of all sorts of causes and you seem to
know when these started, so its not a "generalised" depression but
you probably need to "deal" with some "issues" in your life.
Depression can also come "inadvertently" through influences in our
environment. There is a main general reason for "depression" and
that is "neglect of the Spirit".

That is why I would like to suggest that you take yourself to a SY
centre where they are very well equipped to help you to get in touch
with your Spirit.

There are really very wonderful yogis who can help you there. Do not
be afraid. Perhaps get your "physical" help from there and ask
your "questions" at the forum here. That way it will probably work
out best. You could also tell us how things are going and we could
reassure you in this venture.

The yogis will deal more with the "depression" itself than
the "reason" for it. If there are "psychological" or "physical"
reasons for it, getting your SR and help from yogis is the best way
to get you a new start. They will help you to get into "thoughtless
awareness" and into "balance".

They will help you to get your connection with your spirit and this
will help you to "deal" with your "depression".

Divine mantras help a lot. If you are ready, ask them to do
the "mantras" with you, because they will awaken the "deities"
within your chakras so that the "spiritual qualities" can start
flowing within you.

You will get all the "spiritual" and "moral" support you need on
this website and also "spiritual" and "physical" support you need at
the SY collective.

Please do this for yourself. You will not regret it. It is time to
look after your Spirit. Your Spirit is wanting you to look after
yourself.

One step at a time does it. That's how we grow. One step at a time.



Love from Violet


To: divinesahajayoga@yahoogroups.com
From: "Neha Maan" <
ii_neha_ii@yahoo.co.in
>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:51:09 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: DivineSahajayoga JSMJ


JSMJ,

I am a sikh girl. I was depressed .I came to know about this site and
started doing meditation.I had visited Sahaja centre 4 times. My life
has now changed.

I am out of depression. My problem is that my family is not allowing
me to visit centre because I am from sikh family. They think ,It will
create problems for me after marriage because it will not be
acceptable for my in-laws also to do meditation and doing such
actions like bandhan and kundali raising. My family think that they
will think I am performing some black magic on them. As in our
religion, it is compulsory to do prayer only in front of Shri Guru
Granth Sahib and not in front of any hindu diety or others. I am
doing meditation daily without telling my family. But I could not
receive vibrations as I could not do collective meditation now. So
can anyone guide me. Can any person from sikh family contact me on my mail id?

Eager to see the reply soon.


From:  "violet_tubb" <vtubb@bigpond.net.au>
Date:  Tue Feb 22, 2005  4:21 pm
Subject:  Re: Depression. What is the cause??

Dear Neha Maan,

Your story "confirms" that help can be obtained from SY centre
for "depression". You are fortunate that at this time of
our "spiritual resurrection" we can be changed, all through the
incarnation of Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi.

No person, even the Sikh religion and family have the power
to "enter" your "temple" within. You can use your
outer "restrictions" to make your "inner" freedom even sweeter.

You can also pray to Sri Ganesha who is the Remover of all Obstacles
and state your desires to him and to SM.

God hears and answers prayer and your prayer may be to be a "shining
light" within your own community, indeed showing the qualities of
love, peace, joy and compassion to others.

You can also go into your "private" room to pray. You do not have to
have any pictures; anything; just pray from the "temple" of your
heart wherein are all the "deities" on your every "chakra".

They are literally there, as evidenced by Kash, so you can meditate
upon them from within.

In Jesus' time, there were many "secret" worshipers who were not
allowed to "outwardly" show their faith. It is not an unheard of
situation, so "take courage" from that knowledge.

You do not have to depend upon others to "receive vibrations".
You can give yourself "vibrations".

You will receive "vibrations" when you "meditate" upon the "deities"
within your subtle system.

Receiving of "vibrations" within you happen when the "deities"
within "awaken" and a "wind" of the Holy Spirit circulates within
and around you.

My own family do not know I am SY. They are Fundamentalist Christian
and would think that I have joined a "Hindu Cult". However, it is
easier for me as they live in Canada and I live in Australia.

The world is also going through a religious revolution and
eventually there will be a "breaking down" of "religions barriers"
that do not accept all the "flowers" of the "tree of life" (i.e. all
the prophets and incarnations). This is very much coming into "world
attention" now and will be much more so in the future. In other
worlds, the "Sikh" religion could change in the future to accept SY;
this could be your prayer too; you can help this change to come
about by your "desire". You see we each have our place (physical)
where we can "effect" transformation in this world.

A last "tip" is that "please do not see yourself as being restricted
but having the freedom of the Spirit within yourself". Others will
see that and wonder what your "secret" is.

I am not from a Sikh background but I hope this will help you.

Violet


 
From:  "v_koa" <v_koa@yahoo.com>
Date:  Wed Feb 23, 2005  1:10 am
Subject:  Re: Depression. What is the cause??

Thank you so much as well for the frank and str-8 forward response,
which in many ways is like a wake up call to reality and a full
fledge push in the right direction, as opposed to a nudge. I
definitely need that as i am a master at coming up with excuses for
me not to do things, no matter how good they are for me need that.
Thankx.

Kyyan


Dear Kyyan,

Our bodies are literally the "temple of the Holy Spirit". Located on each chakra, is the "deity" of that chakra. If you read about Kash's knowledge from Sahasrara, he actually saw them on each of his chakras. So its real; not a figment of our imagination. Actually, the fact that "Kash" has seen this, makes it even more "real" for me and I understand it better for that knowledge.

I have chosen the "mantra" for the Agnya Chakra to give you an example. The mantra is in Sanskrit, because this is the source of all languages today and the oldest language on earth and very vibrational.
"Jesus" and "Mary" are the deities who came at this time in our evolution to teach us the lessons of "love" and "forgiveness", etc.

This is how it goes:-

"Om twameva Sakshat" (means "Thou art that Thou art")
"Sri Jesus Mary Sakshat" (means "Jesus/Mary art Thou)
"Shri Adi Shakti Mataji" (means that all Deities are in Shri Mataji the
Great Primordial Mother)
"Shri Nirmala Devi" (Immaculate Goddess)
"Namoh, Namah!" (form of acknowledgment)

When you "say" it or "sing" it, the mantra "awakens" Sri Jesus and Sri Mary within you and as they awaken within you, they create vibrations within you and bring you "qualities" related to this chakra. Jesus taught forgiveness and love. You will "automatically" have within you like a flower opening, the qualities of "forgiveness" and "love" happening within you. I call these "mantras" Divine", because when you sincerely say them, they activate the Grace of God within your Inmost Self. "Divine" also is connected to the word "Devi". In fact, a "Devi" could be called "Divine", just as God is Divine. These deities are all One; part of God Himself.

It just helps to have someone to show you the first time how to do it,
that's all. Once someone has shown you, you can do it yourself. You can even try it yourself if you want. There is no hard and fast rule here but it does help to be shown.

Violet

 

From:  "v_koa" <v_koa@yahoo.com>
Date:  Sun Feb 27, 2005  7:57 am
Subject:  Violet, you are right
 
Violet,

I think you are right. I think that i am getting caught up in such
things and that really asking questions of this sort is really not
conducive to any progress in anyway, but on the contrary, just
getting me wrapped up in things that ultimately i am trying to
escape. I also think that you are right and i should go out and get
my spiritual awakening, get balanced and healed, and then revisit any
question of this kind. hank you for our time and response of course
and i am going to do just that.

Kyyan
 


 


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