We need spiritual understanding and discernment to grasp the Devi's incarnation
Dear Jagbir,
i would like to explore some spiritual subjects and make comments also. i have
re-edited my previous post as i felt i should make myself clearer with my
questions and comments in some cases. So, could you please answer to this post
rather than the one i have deleted. Thanks.
violet
"The First Permission In The Sahasrara…"
You said:
"Kash's father knew that such an unprecedented opportunity for all humanity to
examine and validate the Truth of God almighty might not come again. In his mind
he was convinced that he had to perform his duty even if everybody — his
parents, friends, relatives, and fellow Sahaja Yogis — ridiculed, criticized, or
ostracized him. "Some have said that no answer can be found to the mystery, for
humans have created it and no suprahuman or supernatural answer exists." This
centuries-old dilemma that had allowed religious regimes to conjecture
contradicting dogma could now be solved." END QUOTE
(Jagbir, could you please clarify what unprecedented opportunity you are
referring to? Is this the opportunity to validate the Incarnation of Shri Mataji
Nirmala Devi as the Adi Shakti/Holy Spirit/Ruh of Allah? Also... what is the
'mystery' you are referring to? What is the answer that has been revealed that
dispels this previous 'mystery' that faced all religious regimes?)
You said:
"Kash's father became resolute. He reiterated that he would announce this
Ultimate Reality, given the vast weight of unquestionable evidence, no matter
how ridiculous others thought of his claims. It was imperative that he did so
and allow the entire human race and history to judge him, and not a few
skeptical individuals."
(What are the main details of this "Ultimate Reality" that you wanted to
announce?)
You said:
"He knew that "there are more than half a billion New Age advocates on the
planet at this time, working among various religious groups," waiting for the
first glimmer of Light that the dawning of the Age of Aquarius had predicted to
bring, where "no one is ruled or ruler, where no promise of Heaven offers us
false compensation for our present pain, but where we tend together the earth's
living, fruitful flesh." These Revelations, precisely for these type of New Age
seekers who rejected the authoritarian, suppressive religious institutions,
would free humanity from their suffocating custody and allow every individual to
seek their spiritual union" with the Supreme Spirit within, transforming them in
the process into the new race destined to heal all nations. These Truths had to
be told no matter what the consequences. It was a moral duty that any
conscientious human would most willingly do." END QUOTE
(It seems to me that the New Age seekers do reject any authoritarian,
suppressive religious institutions, regardless of what religious groups they are
involved in. This is an interesting description you give about the new race that
will heal all nations. Shri Mataji talked about it too. Can you (in your own
words) give us the vision that you have... that you briefly describe. Are you
talking about world transformation in all areas of human life such as religion,
politics, economics, law. Everything! Because we all know that there are great
problems in all these institutions now because of the greed and selfishness of
materialistically and egotistically-minded human beings. Shri Mataji spoke on
this subject many times. She even asked us, for example to have movements where
we bring about positive humanitarian change. This must be the way that life on
Earth will change. We have to 'enlighten' all facets... all human endeavours,
and humanity must become "collectively conscious".)
You said:
"In the end, after weeks of disturbance in the family, there was a compromise.
The father agreed to maintain silence and let things take their course, as
required by his spouse, provided he be allowed to question Kash in detail and
record all of his mystical experiences. He would then wait for the appropriate
time to release them for the benefit of others."
(i certainly can understand how much personal disturbance there must have been
for all family members, and i regret that. Some workable solution had to be
found, which only could be achieved through common sense and compromise. In
fact, the ability to compromise seeming 'contradictory elements' that surround
the spiritually discerning person... shows their ability, tests their ability.
These are spiritual qualities that are very important in doing any spiritual
work whatsoever. Nothing is ever as easy as 'black' and 'white'. Nothing is ever
simplistic when dealing with 'complicated human beings'. Especially when new
enlightenment comes. Shri Mataji often spoke about the difficulties She faced to
try and 'get through' to human beings. Love is the only answer, and the power of
Love melts the hardest hearts. i find it interesting also that on one hand you
you have been put into a place whereby you "have to" deal with the mystical, and
on the other hand you have been put in a place whereby "you have" to do the job
of what you describe as a "night-soil-carrier".)
You said:
"On April 2, 1995, at 11:20 a.m. Kash was told to obtain permission from the
Great Universal Mother to reveal the Truth. He meditated and emerged through the
clouds into the Land of Eternal Life. The Primal Light shone ever so brightly
from above as the Holy Spirit of God sat in Bliss and Joy. After bowing down and
exchanging greetings, he asked the Great Mater Purissima (Purest Mother) if She
would grant permission. She gave Her blessings with a reminder that this
intuitive Knowledge was especially for Her devotees."
(So... is this knowledge for "Her Devotees" outside as well as inside the
organisation of SY? Would you say that whether Her Devotees are inside or
outside the organisation of SY, that it would be those who devote themselves in
the following way?:
"You have to dedicate yourself completely to me, not to Sahaja Yoga, but to me.
Sahaja Yoga is only one of my aspects. Leaving everything you have to dedicate.
Complete dedication - otherwise you cannot ascend any further. Without
questioning, without arguing. Complete dedication is the only way you can
achieve it.")
(i always find interesting the words "Land of Eternal Life". Is this a spiritual
state and place combined. Shri Jesus describes what i understand as not only a
'spiritual state' but also a 'spiritual place' and these seem to be combined as
One Thing... for example:
"In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have
told you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and
receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. And you know the
way where I am going. I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to
the Father, but through me." John 14:2-4; 6b)
(i also have a question about Kash and Lalita. Did they incarnate especially
just because of this Special Time, and would not have needed to do otherwise? Is
it possible that there are many such people in the world today, who are
spiritually liberated souls that have just come from this Special Time also?)
You said:
"It was at this point that the actual compilation of his spiritual journeys
began in earnest. Kash was questioned practically every day, sometimes
repeatedly, to clarify and confirm what he saw, heard, thought, spoke, smelled,
touched, and tasted. Often questions were asked suddenly when he least expected
just to get him off-guard to confirm consistency. All answers came with a calm
and nonchalant attitude, without contradiction."
(i would have done the same. Such astounding mystical knowledge had to be
questioned and cross-examined for the benefit of humanity. However, it must have
been a bit 'tricky' at times to get this knowledge from them. Because in my
experience sometimes children just do not want to talk and will wonder why
adults need to know everything. Did you find this sometimes too? And yet again,
you may have had to 'straddle' these perhaps 'contradictory elements' yet again.
Life is never easy, but always a challenge. Kash, for example had obviously
incarnated to "give spiritual evidence" as a child. Spiritually liberated souls
do incarnate for special tasks... even as children.)
You said:
"However, the adverse reactions from almost all quarters regarding the
experiences of Kash experiences were disturbing. After a few months
of writing his father began deleting evidence of Kash and Lalita's
spiritual identities. To officially reveal to the Sahaja Yogis that
they were indeed angels would only make matters worse."
(That was sad that SYs were so adverse against you, that you even had to delete
Kash and Lalita's spiritual identities as "angels", however obviously things are
changing now, and you feel more free to express what needs to be told. The
spiritual eschatology needs to be known to be fulfilled. Shri Mataji told SYs
many times that all the deities/devas/ganas/angels had accompanied Her and were
here with Her, witnessing with great interest everything She was doing and also
protecting Her. She also told at Her Visit to Australia in 1994 (and not in 1993
as i mistakenly 'put' as the year of Her Visit) that "special personalities"
(which we now know are "angels") would be born in Montreal, Canada who would
"give evidence" (proof) of Her Incarnation.)
You said:
"This assertion would be regarded as blatant self-advertisement, a shameless bid
for grandiose fame. It would be better for everyone if such a preposterous claim
be withdrawn. Kash's spiritual abilities could be ascribed to him being just a
jivanmukti, a liberated soul. Lalita could be briefly mentioned as the
fulfillment of the Adi Shakti's promise to Kash that his wish for a sister would
come true."
(It is difficult for people to understand spiritual things. However, things are
changing, due to the spiritual vibrations that have come on Earth. A
materially-minded-person cannot discern 'the spiritual'. They believe that even
'the spiritual manifestation' has to be for selfish purposes of
self-advertisement and fame. This is because that is how they themselves think
with their "own" materialistic and egotistical minds. One day they will also
become spiritually discerning, and they will also realise that truly spiritual
souls give and expect nothing in return. Their spiritual reward comes from
within themselves, and God gives and rewards abundantly with truth, joy and
sheer bliss that is beyond any 'worldly (mental) understanding'.)
http://www.adishakti.org/forum/
wcasy_and_sys_do_you_who_they_are_and_why_they_can_meet_the_shakti_8-
20-2006.htm
violet
--- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "Violet"
>
> Dear Jagbir,
>
> i would like to explore some spiritual subjects and make comments
> also. i have re-edited my previous post as i felt i should make
> myself clearer with my questions and comments in some cases. So,
> could you please answer to this post rather than the one i have
> deleted. Thanks.
>
> violet
>
Dear Violet and All,
i always welcome enquiries and will answer them to the best of my
ability. Clarification of the issues will only enrich all of us and
rid ourselves of ignorance, misconceptions, negativity and fears. It
is the revelations of the Divine Feminine within that are priceless
beyond anything as they confirm and compliment beyond a shadow of
doubt that Shri Mataji is Her incarnation i.e., a divine personality
sent to show humans the path of salvation and evolution into the
eternal spirit. This knowledge is absolutely required for
enlightenment and liberation, the difference between Heaven and
Earth.
>
> "The First Permission In The Sahasrara…"
>
> You said:
>
> "Kash's father knew that such an unprecedented opportunity for all
> humanity to examine and validate the Truth of God almighty might
> not come again. In his mind he was convinced that he had to
> perform his duty even if everybody — his parents, friends,
> relatives, and fellow Sahaja Yogis — ridiculed, criticized, or
> ostracized him. "Some have said that no answer can be found to the
> mystery, for humans have created it and no suprahuman or
> supernatural answer exists." This centuries-old dilemma that had
> allowed religious regimes to conjecture contradicting dogma could
> now be solved." END QUOTE
>
> (Jagbir, could you please clarify what unprecedented opportunity
> you are referring to? Is this the opportunity to validate the
> Incarnation of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi as the Adi Shakti/Holy
> Spirit/Ruh of Allah? Also... what is the 'mystery' you are
> referring to? What is the answer that has been revealed that
> dispels this previous 'mystery' that faced all religious regimes?)
>
The unprecedented opportunity is that humanity can cross-examine the
evidence presented of the Divine Feminine and Her Message against
the holy scriptures of all traditions. In other words, third-party
witnesses on their own free have borne testimony that Shri Mataji
Nirmala Devi is telling the truth when claiming that She is the
incarnation of the Divine Feminine (Shakti/Holy Spirit/Ruh/Eykaa
Mayee) sent to deliver the Message of the Last Judgment and
Resurrection. Kash, Arwinder and Lalita have always insisted that
physical Shri Mataji is the incarnation of the internal, eternal and
ever-youthful Divine Feminine within, that they are one and the
same.
When i quoted "Some have said that no answer can be found to the
mystery, for humans have created it and no suprahuman or
supernatural answer exists." i was referring to the mystery of God
Almighty/Brahman based exclusively on suprahuman/supernatural
experiences. On the basis of thousands of such experiences we now
know that not only the Creator but all His/Her messengers and
liberated souls exist in the Kingdom of God. We know that the holy
scriptures are telling the Truth, and that there is the eternal
Afterlife. This unprecedented opportunity gives humans renewed
faith, boundless hope, and great joy that God Almighty has
manifested the long-awaited promised Age of the Last Judgment and
Resurrection to evolve from the temporary physical body to the
eternal spiritual self and everlasting life. This is only possible
through suprahuman or supernatural experiences and answers given by
liberated souls accompanying the Adi Shakti, evidence that can be
openly cross-examined by those who believe in God Almighty/Brahman.
Suprahuman: "Hinduism's revealed scriptures, of supreme theological
authority and spiritual value. They are timeless teachings
transmitted to rishis, or seers, directly by God thousands of years
ago. Shruti is thus said to be apaurusheya, "impersonal," or
rather "suprahuman." ... These are direct intuitional revelations
and are held to be Apaurusheya or entirely superhuman." "
www.experiencefestival.com/
Supernatural: "The supernatural (Latin: super- "exceeding" + nature)
refers to forces and phenomena which are not observed in nature, and
therefore beyond verifiable measurement. If a phenomenon can be
demonstrated, it can no longer be considered supernatural. Because
phenomena must be subject verifiable measurement and peer review to
contribute to scientific theories, science cannot approach the
supernatural; see scientific method.
"Measure what is measurable, and make measurable what is not so." --
Galileo
Concepts in the supernatural domain are closely related to concepts
in religious spirituality and metaphysics. The term "supernatural"
is often used interchangeably with paranormal or preternatural — the
latter typically limited to an adjective for describing abilities
which appear to exceed possible bounds.
Supernatural claims assert phenomena beyond the realm of current
scientific understanding, and may likewise be in direct conflict
with scientific concepts of possibility, plausibility, or reality in
general. The supernatural concept is generally identified with
religion or other unscientific belief systems — though there is much
debate as to whether a supernatural aspect is necessary for
religion, or that religion is necessary for holding a concept of the
supernatural."
Wikipedia (supernatural)
"After communion comes the homeward journey, the descent! That is
the other miracle in this magnificent. The illumined God-men, out of
their compassionate grace for the fellow brethren, choose to come
down to assuage their suffering and dispel their darkness, by
pointing out the trackless pathway to the divine Presence! With the
armour of God's grace, these realised seers descend from the state
of perfect quiescence and eternal union with the Supreme Bliss, to
the habitat of the body — It is from this station that they can lead
their fellow Jivan-Muktar to engage in the service of Siva, and work
for the liberation of as many earnest seekers after truth, in
attuning to the will of God. Such Jivan-Muktar are tuned to enjoy
dynamic identity with the inner Presence, and this is known as the
Turiya state. They are the spiritual preceptors or Gurus, having the
divine authority to speak on behalf of God."
Hinduism Today
(Himalayan Academy, 1998, www.hinduismtoday.kauai.hi.us/welcome.html)
"Vedantic seers say that one cannot attain complete Freedom and
Knowledge in life by experiencing the nirvikalpaka samadhi once or
twice. Only by repeated practice can one become established in
Brahman and rid oneself of all the vestiges of maya. The seed of
ignorance must be fully roasted in the fire by Brahmanjnana, the
Knowledge of the Absolute, so that it may never germinate again.
Thus alone does one become a jivanmukta, liberated in this life
though still living in a human body. Such a man breaks through the
fetters of attachment and rushes out of the prison-house of the
world, as a lion rushes out of its cage. This Freedom is achieved
when one is rid of ignorance and its paralysing effects.
A jivan mukta demonstrates, by his life and action, the reality of
Brahman and the illusoriness of the names and forms of the relative
world. Having himself crossed the ocean of birth and death, he helps
others to the shores of Immortality. Such a man keeps religion
alive, not the erudite theologian . . .
About such a person it can truly be said that he exists, because he
has become one with Existence; knows, because he has become one with
Knowledge; and enjoys bliss, because he has become one with Bliss
Absolute. He does not have to go back to the world of darkness
again; for he has entered into the world of Light. If compassion for
human kind moves him to assume again a body, he is born as a free
soul always conscious of his divine nature."
Swami Nikhilananda, Self-Knowledge (Atmabodha),
Ramakrishna-Vivekananda Center, 1989, p. 110-11.)
>
> You said:
>
> "Kash's father became resolute. He reiterated that he would
> announce this Ultimate Reality, given the vast weight of
> unquestionable evidence, no matter how ridiculous others thought
> of his claims. It was imperative that he did so and allow the
> entire human race and history to judge him, and not a few
> skeptical individuals."
>
> (What are the main details of this "Ultimate Reality" that you
> wanted to announce?)
>
"The Hindu tradition encourages Hindus to seek spiritual and moral
truth wherever it might be found, while acknowledging that no creed
can contain such truth in its fullness and that each individual must
realize this truth through his or her own systematic effort. Our
experience, our reason, and our dialogue with others—especially with
enlightened individuals—provide various means of testing our
understanding of spiritual and moral truth. And Hindu scripture,
based on the insights of Hindu sages and seers, serves primarily as
a guidebook. But ultimately truth comes to us through direct
consciousness of the divine or the ultimate reality. In other
religions this ultimate reality is known as God. Hindus refer to it
by many names, but the most common name is Brahman."
MSN Encarta
Universal Self (atman) and Ultimate Reality (Brahman)
"One of the key concepts of Hinduism is the belief in an ultimate
reality called Brahman which is the source of all living things in
this universe.
Brahman is the ground of all reality and existence. Brahman is
uncreated, external, infinite and all-embracing. It is the ultimate
cause and goal of all that exists. It is One and it is All. All
beings emanate from Brahman; all beings will return back to the same
source. Brahman is in all things and it is the true Self (atman) of
all beings.
Upanishads, the ancient scripture of Hinduism, teaches that the
ultimate ground of the universe is one with the ground of the
thinker himself. For instance Chandogya Upanishad suggested, "tat
tvam asi" ('that art thou' or "that is what you are.") expressing
the identity of Brahman and the Self (atman).
"Now, the name of this Brahman is 'Real' (satyam). This word has
three syllables: sa, ti, and yam. Of these, sat is the immortal, and
ti is the mortal, while the syllable yam is what joins those two
together. Because the two are joined together (yam) by it, it is
called yam. Anyone who knows this goes to the heavenly world every
single day." - from the Chandogya Upanishad
He is the Supreme Brahman, the Self of all, the chief foundation of
this world, subtler than the subtle, eternal. That thou art; thou art
That. - Atharva Veda
He is the eternal Reality, sing the scriptures,
And the ground of existence.
Those who perceive him in every creature
Merge in him and are released from
The wheel of birth and death. - Shvetashvatara Upanishad
In its deepest essence, the human soul is identical with the
immortal Brahman that sustains the entire universe. Bhagavad Gita
says that "those who know the soul, are immortal."
I shall tell you of the soul. The soul is God who is immortal and
infinite, who has no beginning and will have no end, and who both
exists and does not exist. Those who know the soul, are immortal.
The soul dwells in every living being, and in every part of every
living being; it dwells in the hand and the foot, the skull and the
mouth, the eye and the ear. Although it does not itself have senses,
it shines through every sense. It is completely independent, yet all
beings depend on it.
The soul is both near every living being, and far from every being.
The soul is both inside and outside every living being.
The soul is the cause of movement, but does not itself move.
The soul is one, yet has innumerable forms.
The soul creates, preserves, and destroys.
The soul is the light of every light; and its light transcends the
duality of brightness and darkness.
The soul is the light of knowledge; and its light is also the goal of knowledge.
In the soul the subject and object of knowledge are one.
Bhagavad Gita 13.12-17
Vedic literature suggests that there is a single essence (brahman)
that underlies all existence and animates all living beings. A
person's realization of the identity and unity of atman and brahman
is believed to bring about liberation or moksha. When that happens,
he or she is freed from all restraints of the mind and body, and
thereby transcends all distinctions. Both the Upanishads and later
philosophy emphasize the role of jnana or knowledge in the
attainment of moksha.
The concept that brahman and atman are ultimately the same is very
difficult to understand. The Chandogya Upanishad, for example,
compares the learning process to reach there to crossing the ocean
of suffering. A person needs to meditate on the nature of the self
to know brahman. Brahman cannot be defined according to Hindus,
because to define brahman would mean limiting it. So we arrive at a
paradoxical situation. …
Brahma satyam jagan mithya
Brahman is real; the world is unreal.
Ekam evadvitiyam brahma
Brahman is one, without a second.
Prajnanam brahman
Brahman is the supreme knowledge.
Tat tvam asi
That is what you are.
Ayam atma brahma
Atman and brahman are the same.
Aham brahmasmi
I am brahman.
Sarvam khalvidam brahma
All of this is brahman."
hwww.1stholistic.com/prayer/Hindu/hol_Hindu-brahman.htm
>
> You said:
>
> "He knew that "there are more than half a billion New Age
> advocates on the planet at this time, working among various
> religious groups," waiting for the first glimmer of Light that the
> dawning of the Age of Aquarius had predicted to bring, where "no
> one is ruled or ruler, where no promise of Heaven offers us false
> compensation for our present pain, but where we tend together the
> earth's living, fruitful flesh." These Revelations, precisely for
> these type of New Age seekers who rejected the authoritarian,
> suppressive religious institutions, would free humanity from their
> suffocating custody and allow every individual to seek their
> spiritual union" with the Supreme Spirit within, transforming them
> in the process into the new race destined to heal all nations.
> These Truths had to be told no matter what the consequences. It
> was a moral duty that any conscientious human would most willingly
> do." END QUOTE
>
> (It seems to me that the New Age seekers do reject any
> authoritarian, suppressive religious institutions, regardless of
> what religious groups they are involved in. This is an interesting
> description you give about the new race that will heal all
> nations. Shri Mataji talked about it too. Can you (in your own
> words) give us the vision that you have... that you briefly
> describe. Are you talking about world transformation in all areas
> of human life such as religion, politics, economics, law.
> Everything! Because we all know that there are great problems in
> all these institutions now because of the greed and selfishness of
> materialistically and egotistically-minded human beings. Shri
> Mataji spoke on this subject many times. She even asked us, for
> example to have movements where we bring about positive
> humanitarian change. This must be the way that life on Earth will
> change. We have to 'enlighten' all facets... all human endeavours,
> and humanity must become "collectively conscious".)
>
Violet, Shri Mataji's Divine Message more than meets the spiritual
requirements of New Agers who have been waiting for the Age of
Aquarius to materialize. Unfortunately SYs balked at announcing Her
advent and message and false gurus had a field day. But it is still
not late as Shri Mataji has made sure Her advent and Divine Message
survives and spreads despite the reluctance and resistance of the SY
leadership.
As far as humanity is concerned i seriously doubt they will ever
improve in all areas of human life, and that includes religious
folks too. As Robert De Niro, playing the role of Lucifer in Angel
Heart, quipped: "They say there's just enough religion to make man
hate one another, but not enough to make them love."
"For almost two thousand years, three major religions, Christianity,
Judaism, and Islam, have enjoyed a popularity and exercised a
profound influence on millions of human beings. Each, from the very
beginning of its existence, claimed to have the ultimate answers to
the supreme questions that confront man in every age. Each claimed,
on the basis of absolute exclusivity, to be a chosen people. Each
claimed to be able to provide its adherents with the truth about
man, his origin and his destiny, and further to provide him with a
world outlook according to which he could explain everything in
human life.
As Dr. Martin shows in The Encounter, each of the three religions at
one early moment in its history made a choice according to which all
its later history was determined. Christianity restricted itself
essentially to the West; it attempted, with minimal success, to
convert the peoples of Africa and Asia; it set up from its
beginnings an official opposition and hate for Judaism; at one time
it dreamed of supervising and controlling the secular and political
life of man. Judaism set itself in opposition to Christianity; it
became, for almost 1,800 years, the professional underdog of the
West; in modern times, it has been polarized beyond repair. Islam
tied its fortunes to certain geographical areas, to one concept of
civil government, to a way of life totally incompatible with that of
mankind generally today, and to an irredentism unacceptable to
modern man.
Each of these religions had a limited success over a certain period
of human history. That period is now over. It is Dr. Martin's thesis
that, as a result, all religions are in a state of crisis. They are
not able to provide modern man with answers to his ethical problems.
They cannot unite man today. Their very formulations of doctrine and
solutions to human problems are unintelligible today. In short, they
have failed modern man."
Malachi Martin, The Encounter,
Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1970, summary on book jacket
"When we examine the modern environment of man in which Judaism,
Christianity, and Islam find themselves, it is abundantly clear that
these three religions are finished as major influences. As
predominantly systems of thought, worship, ethical inspiration and
of judgement on human affairs, they are excluded forever from human
affairs. But they will not perish overnight. They will persist in
some parts of the planet with diminishing influence, dwindling
numbers, and changing faces. They will undergo periodic petty
renaissances and sporadic revivals. They will resist the threat of
extinction as dominant mysteries with all the resources at their
power and with desperation of all the ancient experienced things at
bay and staring at death. Under this threat they may yet render
invaluable services to man. They may go protestingly. They may
depart with dignity. They will certainly pass with pathos; and their
nodding fall into eternal slumbers will needle the human mind with
nostalgia. But, as they are, their dominance is finished forever.
Their day is done . . .
All three made fateful and fatal choices at the one priceless moment
that history afforded them. And all three are paying the price
levied by the logic of that history. For history never forgives and
never forgets.
But their decadence, decomposition, and death today are about to be
the saddest part of their story. Nothing so unbecomes them as the
manner of their going. They are going because they failed to the one
thing they promised to do: explains man to man, unwrap the riddle of
his need to hate, show him he is brother at one and the same time to
tell all men and to the angels. They failed to save him from the
evil in him."
Malachi Martin, The Encounter,
Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1970, p. 273.
"Christianity within its own borders has specialized in self-
crucifixion, at first to quite a minor degree during the first 1500
years of its life, when heretics and dissidents and accused witches
and sorcerers were put to death, as Jesus was. Then, with the
breakup of its unity in the 16th century, Christians devised for
each other one Hell more horrendous and tortuous than another,
indulging in a 300-year round of mutual recrimination, accusation,
denigration, and relegation by bell, book, and candle, to the
filthiest categories of human life. No branch of Christianity can be
excused from this, because all Christians have indulged in it.
No body of Christians ever answered the insults of other Christians
with Christ's answer: "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what
they do?" They all developed special vocabularies replete with
violent words such as "heresy," "heretic," "extirpation,"
"condemnation," "excommunication," "outcasts," "unclean
believers," "vice-mongers." Each one devised its special defenses
against the other: social ostracism, civil war, discrimination,
calumny, legal non-existence. Rome was the Red Lady of the South.
Luther was the Pig of Germany. Protestants were the sons of vipers.
Jews were the "race of the devil." Muslims were "benighted and error-
ridden barbarians." No body of Christians ever tried to conquer the
world with humility and patience and love, and no body of believers
ever tried to fan the flames of faith, in the heart of man by being
authentically believers.
The Jews, in retaliation for their pain and their sustained exile,
contributed to the sea of hate, distrust and, in some cases,
deformation of truth. They invented multiform expressions of
contempt, condemnation, loathing, and utter rejection of Christians.
They even modified some of their traditional beliefs because the
Christians had borrowed them in their original form and, in their
repugnance from all things Christian, they wanted no resemblance to
subsist between their faith and that of the Christians. They
returned hate with hate. They, also, cannot be excused and
considered totally guiltless. They preached truth and justice, yet
they violated both in order to maintain their religion and their
Jewishness. Christians preached love but practised officially
sanctioned hate, intermingling their loveliest psalms of compassion
for their dying Savior with the expressions of extreme disgust for
the Jews . . .
Muslims preached mercy and compassion, but they practised none or
very little, assigning both Christians and Jews to the lowest rung
in Allah's consideration, and historically meting out to both a
treatment which rivals any cruelties of man in known history. Down
through the ages, this procession of the crucified one has come:
formed, maintained, and augmented by Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
Each one has prayed with its armies to its god that the armies of
the opponents be destroyed. There is no palliating or explaining
away the sin of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
The three religions failed in another significant way. None of them
attacked slavery or race prejudice or other flagrant inhumanities of
man to man from the very beginning of their existence. The Arabs of
today sanction slavery as spontaneously as the Popes of the 19th
century sanctioned the creation of castrati choirs for Papal masses,
as readily and blindly as the Protestant ethic of the white American
sanctioned the serfdom and degradation of the Negro race until the
second half of the 20th century. Each religion has practiced the art
of climbing on the bandwagon: only when lay and secular reformers,
sometimes lacking any formal religion whatever, raised such a hue
and cry that men's consciences were stirred, did the religions begin
to turn their huge resources toward reform. The Catholic Church in
Germany and Italy acquiesced in Nazism and Fascism at least in the
earlier stages of the ideologies. Russian Orthodoxy acquiesced in
the despotism and sadism of Czarist times. Greek Orthodoxy
sanctioned the corruption of the Byzantine court and is today
bitterly nationalist in Greece's disputes with Turkey. No Protestant
Church and no Jewish Synagogue ever officially condemned and
attacked the Ku Klux Klan before 1945 in America, though individuals
did. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have practiced the double
standard in this matter . . .
Thus the three religions have not been witnesses to the truth. All,
it is true, have developed an exalted vocabulary, and a very
impressive manner of announcing their own grandiose claims. All
three have excelled and excel in words, as distinct from actions.
All three have an impressive ritual and have refined psychological
approaches to man. Yet the witness of words, mere words, has never
changed men's minds, nor has mere theological subtlety helped men to
be better men. The witness of the three religions have been faulty,
at times perniciously false and erroneous. The three of them have
witnessed to the uses of hate for the love of a god. And all three
have disposed of the lives and happiness of millions of human beings
without any real feeling for human suffering or any genuine concern
for the concrete realities of life.
It is clear, first of all, that today all three religions lack any
authoritative note for man. They have, as yet, each one of them,
sufficient number of adherents to give the impression of continuing
strength, and this glosses over for them and for the outside world
at times their terrible weakness. For each of them, when scrutinized
closely, is blackened with sufficient failures to prevent any
thinking man from believing in them. And, above all, all three
persevere in making a claim which cannot possibly be valid and true:
that they are, each single one, the true religion.
Each one of them, however, hides from the ultimate test of its
validity and truth behind a wall of unknowing and expectation. All
three chorus that only on the "Last Day," when the "End" comes,
when "God" decides, will it be clear that the "other two" and all
others besides were false, and it (the claimant) was all along the
true community of the one "God." "
Malachi Martin, The Encounter,
Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1970, 329-32.
The only solution is the Divine Message of the Resurrection and Last
Judgment delivered by the Adi Shakti. All who believe in God are
given equal opportunity to accept all the religions, incarnations
and scriptures to begin evolving after Self-realization. This is a
life-long 24/7 cleansing of mind, body and soul by immersion in
divinity. The Divine Message has little to do with going to
synagogues, churches, mosques or temples as salivation (moksa) is
from within, not without. For Judaism, Christianity and Islam the
Divine Message is the ultimate test of its validity and truth behind
a wall of unknowing and expectation. All three chorus that only on
the "Last Day," when the "End" comes, when "God" decides, will it be
clear that the "other two" and all others besides were false, and it
(the claimant) was all along the true community of the one "God."
The Adi Shakti has proven that all three religions, like the rest,
have part of the Truth and that you will only know the whole Truth
if you accept all. She has enlightened all facets so that all human
endeavours, and humanity become collectively conscious. The Divine
Message is so comforting, peaceful, empowering and joyous. It is
this collective consciousness that we must strive to trigger over
the years.
>
> You said:
>
> "In the end, after weeks of disturbance in the family, there was a
> compromise. The father agreed to maintain silence and let things
> take their course, as required by his spouse, provided he be
> allowed to question Kash in detail and record all of his mystical
> experiences. He would then wait for the appropriate time to
> release them for the benefit of others."
>
> (i certainly can understand how much personal disturbance there
> must have been for all family members, and i regret that. Some
> workable solution had to be found, which only could be achieved
> through common sense and compromise. In fact, the ability to
> compromise seeming 'contradictory elements' that surround the
> spiritually discerning person... shows their ability, tests their
> ability. These are spiritual qualities that are very important in
> doing any spiritual work whatsoever. Nothing is ever as easy
> as 'black' and 'white'. Nothing is ever simplistic when dealing
> with 'complicated human beings'. Especially when new enlightenment
> comes. Shri Mataji often spoke about the difficulties She faced to
> try and 'get through' to human beings. Love is the only answer,
> and the power of Love melts the hardest hearts. i find it
> interesting also that on one hand you you have been put into a
> place whereby you "have to" deal with the mystical, and on the
> other hand you have been put in a place whereby "you have" to do
> the job of what you describe as a "night-soil-carrier".)
>
"It is the Compassion of the Divine that has given you this Gift,
thinking and judging you to be capable of doing something great,
that you will work out the plans of the Divine. That's why this
Power is given to you."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
>
> You said:
>
> "On April 2, 1995, at 11:20 a.m. Kash was told to obtain
> permission from the Great Universal Mother to reveal the Truth. He
> meditated and emerged through the clouds into the Land of Eternal
> Life. The Primal Light shone ever so brightly from above as the
> Holy Spirit of God sat in Bliss and Joy. After bowing down and
> exchanging greetings, he asked the Great Mater Purissima (Purest
> Mother) if She would grant permission. She gave Her blessings with
> a reminder that this intuitive Knowledge was especially for Her
> devotees."
>
> (So... is this knowledge for "Her Devotees" outside as well as
> inside the organisation of SY? Would you say that whether Her
> Devotees are inside or outside the organisation of SY, that it
> would be those who devote themselves in the following way?:
>
> "You have to dedicate yourself completely to me, not to Sahaja
> Yoga, but to me. Sahaja Yoga is only one of my aspects. Leaving
> everything you have to dedicate. Complete dedication - otherwise
> you cannot ascend any further. Without questioning, without
> arguing. Complete dedication is the only way you can achieve it.")
>
i believe the Divine Mother meant that this knowledge is for all Her
devotees, both SYs and non-SYs. However i think non-SYs are at a
severe disadvantage as they are mostly worshipping idols which in no
way represent Her image. (i have to yet find a single verse in all
the Puranas, Vedas and Upanishads that condone idol-worship. There
is not even a single sentence and i challenge all Hindus to prove me
wrong.) To accept Her Divine Message and meditate on Her requires
Self-realization and kundalini awakening, a genuine experience
bestowed exclusively by Shri Mataji. This is because the Cool Breeze
must flow out of their hands and head (Brahmarandra) after Self-
realization, a feat no other guru or organization can replicate.
There are so many self-realization claims made to attract seekers
but none can make the Kundalini rise to the Sahasrara and produce
this Cool Breeze. Thus the knowledge is only for those receiving
direct Self-realization from Her and taking part in the Last
Judgment and Resurrection. i doubt the conditioned religious folks
will do so, and hence will hardly be interested in the knowledge.
Moreover, this knowledge requires spiritual maturity and
intelligence to be grasped and understood in depth, a process that
will take months/years. Thus many of the Divine Mother's devotees
are going to ignore Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.
>
> (i always find interesting the words "Land of Eternal Life". Is
> this a spiritual state and place combined. Shri Jesus describes
> what i understand as not only a 'spiritual state' but also
> a 'spiritual place' and these seem to be combined as One Thing...
> for example:
>
> "In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so,
> I would have told you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I
> will come again, and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there
> you may be also. And you know the way where I am going. I am the
> way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father, but
> through me." John 14:2-4; 6b)
>
This spiritual state and place, the microcosm and macrocosm, or
experiencing Heaven on Earth is a very difficult revelation to
understand. i quote BKS Iyengar:
"As the sun illumines the world with its rays, so the light of the
soul reaches the sahasrara, the thousand-petalled cakra, also known
as brahmakapala. The yogi knows the functions of both the outer and
inner worlds. . . . As the microcosm represents the macrocosm, man's
body epitomizes the entire structure of the great universe. . . .
According to yogis, within the aerial regions are the seven major
cakras. They are muladhara (seat of anus), svadhistana (sacral
area), manipuraka (navel), anahata (heart), visuddhi (throat), ajna
(eyebrow centre) and sahasrara (crown of the head). There are other
cakras, such as surya (corresponding to the sympathetic nervous
system), candra (parasympathetic nervous system) and manas (seat of
the mind). All these are interconnected, like the solar system. The
sun that shines from the seat of the soul is the sun of life. It
passes through surya nadi at the gates of surya cakra and illumines
the seven states of awareness in the yogi's consciousness (II.27).
Patanjali speaks not only of external, but of internal achievements.
He instructs the aspirant to direct his mind towards the inner body,
to study and gain knowledge of the soul."
BKS Iyengar, Light on the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali,
HarperCollins Publishers, 1996, p. 197.
i would like to refer to some notes made so that we can understand
the incomprehensible majesty of the Sahasrara (Kingdom of God)
better. It may help too if we understand that Shri Lalita Devi's
422nd name in the Sri Lalita Sahasranama is Sandhya:
On December 12, 1996, at 5:30 p.m. Arwinder was asked where was this
fabulous City that Shri Mataji and he had strolled around — whether
it was in the universe, within himself, or wherever? He replied that
he did not know. He was told to try harder. He closed his eyes in
concentration, recalling that there were many people, buildings, a
river flowing, bridges, birds flying around, and Cool Breeze
blowing. He even ascertained that the average distance Shri Mataji
took him for a walk was that from his home to Bonanza Supermarket
(now IGA), just over a kilometer. However, he could not understand
or determine that the City was within himself.
This handicap was similar as that of his brother Kash who always
felt that his spiritual body was elsewhere — even after he knew that
everything was within himself. It was impossible for any of them to
comprehend that the universe existed within themselves! This is the
microcosm of Shri Sandhya Shri Nirmala Devi, the biblical Kingdom
of God, the Quran's Regions in their Souls, the Sri Guru Granth
Sahib's Imperishable Home, and the Inner Reality that numerous Vedic
and Buddhist texts expound. This is what great realized souls meant
by the microcosm in the macrocosm.
"Microcosm. A little world; miniature universe; Macrocosm. the great
world; the universe."
Webster New World Dictionary,
Third College Edition, Simon & Schuster, Inc. 1988.
As one not knowing that a golden treasure lies buried beneath his
feet may walk over it again and again yet never find it,
So all beings live every moment in the city of Brahman yet never
find Him,
Because of the veil of illusion by which He is concealed.
Sama Veda, Chandogya Upanishads 8.3.2.,
The Upanishads, Breath of the Eternal, 121
Deep within the body-village is the fortress.
The dwelling of the True Lord is within the city of the Tenth Gate.
This place is permanent and forever immaculate.
She Herself created it. Within the fortress are balconies and
bazaars.
She Herself takes care of His merchandise.
The hard and heavy doors of the Tenth Gate are closed and locked.
Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, they are thrown open.
Within the fortress is the cave, the home of the self.
She established the nine gates of this house, by His Command and His
Will.
In the Tenth Gate, the Primal Lord, the unknowable and infinite
dwells; the unseen Lord reveals Herself.
Within the body of air, water and fire, the One Lord dwells.
Adi Granth, Maru, First Mehl, Dakhanee, p. 1034
Everything is within the Lord — the continents, worlds and nether
regions.
The Life of the World, the Great Giver, dwells within the body; She
is the Cherisher of all.
The body-bride is eternally beautiful; the Gurmukh contemplates the
Naam.
The Lord Herself dwells within the body; She is invisible and cannot
be seen.
The foolish self-willed manmukh does not understand; he goes out
searching for the Lord externally.
One who serves the True Guru is always at peace; the True Guru has
shown me the Invisible Lord.
Within the body there are jewels and precious treasures, the over-
flowing treasure of devotion.
Within this body are the nine continents of the Earth, its markets,
cities and streets.
Within this body are the nine treasures of the Naam; Contemplating
the Word of the Guru's Shabad, it is obtained.
Within the body, the Lord estimates the weight; She Herself is the
weigher.
This mind is the jewel, the gem, the diamond; it is absolutely
priceless.
The Naam, the Name of the Lord, cannot be purchased at any price;
The Naam is obtained by contemplating the Guru.
One who becomes Gurmukh searches this body; all others just wander
around in confusion.
That humble being alone obtains it, unto whom the Lord bestows it.
What other clever tricks can anyone try?
Adi Granth, Soohee, Third Mehl, p. 754
Sandhya (422nd): The deity who is worshipped at the conjunction of
day and night. Sandhya implies the mental sheath or `Mano-maya-Kosa'
which is the middle of the five sheaths i.e. `Annamaya, Pranamaya,
Manomaya, Vijnanamaya and Anandamaya.' The moment when `Brahma-
jnanis' meditate upon the Ultimate One, utterly losing distinction
between the microcosm and macrocosm, and the knower and the known,
is known as `Sandhya.'
>
> (i also have a question about Kash and Lalita. Did they incarnate
> especially just because of this Special Time, and would not have
> needed to do otherwise? Is it possible that there are many such
> people in the world today, who are spiritually liberated souls
> that have just come from this Special Time also?)
>
Yes, Kash and Lalita only incarnated for this Special Time.
Otherwise, as liberated souls, they need not come down to Earth.
Neither would i as the Divine Mother revealed that we were all
members of the same family living in Heaven. And we are not the only
ones.
There are indeed other ancient souls or spiritually liberated beings
who have accompanied the Adi Shakti to ensure Her victory over the
forces of evil. But that does not mean much as most of them have
succumbed to the maya of Kali Yuga and forgotten their past lives
serving and upholding dharma with great valor. i had forgotten that
too for 42 years till the Devi awoke me. Perhaps those reading this
post will be reminded to wake up and perform their sacred duty as
promised prior to taking birth on Earth. And there are other great
souls just waiting to take birth and serve Her. So there is hope.
>
> You said:
>
> "It was at this point that the actual compilation of his spiritual
> journeys began in earnest. Kash was questioned practically every
> day, sometimes repeatedly, to clarify and confirm what he saw,
> heard, thought, spoke, smelled, touched, and tasted. Often
> questions were asked suddenly when he least expected just to get
> him off-guard to confirm consistency. All answers came with a calm
> and nonchalant attitude, without contradiction."
>
> (i would have done the same. Such astounding mystical knowledge
> had to be questioned and cross-examined for the benefit of
> humanity. However, it must have been a bit 'tricky' at times to
> get this knowledge from them. Because in my experience sometimes
> children just do not want to talk and will wonder why adults need
> to know everything. Did you find this sometimes too? And yet
> again, you may have had to 'straddle' these perhaps 'contradictory
> elements' yet again. Life is never easy, but always a challenge.
> Kash, for example had obviously incarnated to "give spiritual
> evidence" as a child. Spiritually liberated souls do incarnate for
> special tasks... even as children.)
>
Violet, i had to do most of the task of extracting the empirical
knowledge/revelations. Kash, Arwinder and Lalita have hardly given
any information on their own free will. They are so casual about
their meeting the Divine Mother and do not talk about their
experiences, as if it is no big deal. Till today none of them have
enquired what anyone thinks about their experiences over the years,
as if it does not matter whether they are believed or not.
The word "empirical" means "based upon experience". In philosophy
the term empiricism refers to the theory that all concepts are
derived from experience and that all statements which express
knowledge must ultimately derive their justification from
experience. Thus empirical knowledge is relating to or based upon
practical experience, trial and error, direct observation or
observation alone, without benefit of scientific method, knowledge
or theory.
There are a few advantages of this empirical knowledge in these
modern times over past incarnations centuries ago.
i) the ability to save all revelations in a reliable and stable
format that can be instantly distributed to a wide audience;
ii) the ability to cross-examine the witnesses and re-verify the
revelations at any given time while the memory is still fresh, and
not years or decades later;
iii) the ability to check the authenticity and revelations of the
Divine Feminine against the holy scriptures;
iv) the ability to ask questions and clarification directly from the
Divine Mother on a intimate basis;
v) the assurance of innocence from children whose minds are free
from religious conditionings or desire for power and fame, a serious
defect that would subject adults to suspicion and disbelief;
vi) the very nature of the revelations that are not only beyond the
ability of any child to know but, most importantly, strictly conform
to the holy scriptures despite their controversial nature that defy
known facts. For example, how did Kash, Arwinder and Lalita each
claim that the rays of the immensely bright Light above the Divine
Mother are cool and do not hurt the eyes? ..... or cast no shadows?
>
> You said:
>
> "However, the adverse reactions from almost all quarters regarding
> the experiences of Kash experiences were disturbing. After a few
> months of writing his father began deleting evidence of Kash and
> Lalita's spiritual identities. To officially reveal to the Sahaja
> Yogis that they were indeed angels would only make matters worse."
>
> (That was sad that SYs were so adverse against you, that you even
> had to delete Kash and Lalita's spiritual identities as "angels",
> however obviously things are changing now, and you feel more free
> to express what needs to be told. The spiritual eschatology needs
> to be known to be fulfilled. Shri Mataji told SYs many times that
> all the deities/devas/ganas/angels had accompanied Her and were
> here with Her, witnessing with great interest everything She was
> doing and also protecting Her. She also told at Her Visit to
> Australia in 1994 (and not in 1993 as i mistakenly 'put' as the
> year of Her Visit) that "special personalities" (which we now know
> are "angels") would be born in Montreal, Canada who would "give
> evidence" (proof) of Her Incarnation.)
>
Yes, not only did Shri Mataji prevent me from deleting their true
identities but more than a decade later this month made it known
that She had already talked about them in 1994. Violet, your
confirmation that Shri Mataji informed the SYs in Australia that
special personalities from Montreal, Canada will give evidence of
Her incarnation is a most crucial and empowering statement. It could
not have come at a better time, confirming beyond any shadow of
doubt that Shri Mataji is the cause of all that my children have
witnessed and i have written over the years.
So Shri Mataji did declare around the end of March 1994 that special
personalities from Montreal, Canada will give evidence. That is the
reason why a few weeks later the first and only national puja was
held at Camp Interval in Quebec on June 24, 1994. At that time i was
wondering why the tiny Montreal collective was given the honor of
hosting the North American Guru Puja, and not Toronto or Vancouver
or New York. So the existing 1994 SY leadership knew about Shri
Mataji's predictions about Montreal and must have requested a grand
puja. In fact i heard the local collective organizer SY Robert
McNeil telling SYs that Canada will be the place from where Sahaja
Yoga will spread. It all makes sense now Violet.
This was our first puja and most memorable. Of all the spiritual
knowledge revealed to the children, perhaps the most priceless of
all is the one posed by Kash to the Great Adi Shakti on June 23,
1994, the eve of the Guru Puja. On that day Kash meditated and
confirmed that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's original name was Shri
Lalita Devi! :
Kash: "Shri Mataji, what was Your original name?"
Shri Mataji: "Shri Lalita Devi."
Shri Lalita Devi
Camp Interval, Quebec, Canada — July 23, 1994
It is for this reason that the 1,000 esoteric names throughout Shri
Adi Shakti: The Kingdom of God are taken from the Shri Lalita
Sahasranama and attributed to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, the
incarnation of Shri Lalita Devi, the Great Goddess.
>
> You said:
>
> "This assertion would be regarded as blatant self-advertisement, a
> shameless bid for grandiose fame. It would be better for everyone
> if such a preposterous claim be withdrawn. Kash's spiritual
> abilities could be ascribed to him being just a jivanmukti, a
> liberated soul. Lalita could be briefly mentioned as the
> fulfillment of the Adi Shakti's promise to Kash that his wish for
> a sister would come true."
>
> (It is difficult for people to understand spiritual things.
> However, things are changing, due to the spiritual vibrations that
> have come on Earth. A materially-minded-person cannot discern 'the
> spiritual'. They believe that even 'the spiritual manifestation'
> has to be for selfish purposes of self-advertisement and fame.
> This is because that is how they themselves think with their "own"
> materialistic and egotistical minds. One day they will also become
> spiritually discerning, and they will also realise that truly
> spiritual souls give and expect nothing in return. Their spiritual
> reward comes from within themselves, and God gives and rewards
> abundantly with truth, joy and sheer bliss that is beyond
> any 'worldly (mental) understanding'.)
>
>
>
>
i have told my wife a number of times that had someone else given me
such evidence i would have thanked him/her again and again for
giving me the immense strength and faith to realize that Shri Mataji
is indeed a genuine incarnation, and follow Her till the end of my
life. If someone had told me about Shri Mataji and given irrefutable
evidence and the whole unedited Truth based on the Holy Scriptures i
would probably have given up my one-night stand life right away and
devoted myself to the Divine. After all, i did become a full-fledged
Sikh in the early 1980s when the Divine Call came and told me: "Become a
Sikh". That only lasted about two years as when my best drinking
buddy came down from UK on a visit i just reverted back to the old
ways. Maybe it was a dry run to test if i could respond later to a
more difficult future task. That came when the Divine Call on
September 28, 1993 told me: "Join Shri Mataji". She made sure i did
just that.
i now believe i have performed my duty adequately. But there are
still difficult years ahead as the negativity has overcome many rank
and file SYs. That Her own devotees almost destroyed evidence of Her
incarnation is probably the saddest chapter in Shri Mataji's legacy.
The latent jealousy, ignorance and self-destruction over the years
from within the organization is almost unbelievable. None of us
asked for any applause, recognition, or leadership position. The
only way to escape the relentless negativity was to leave the Sahaja
Yoga organization. i doubt any of us will ever return, at least not
till SYs have the spiritual understanding and discernment to grasp
the Devi within and Her incarnation without .......... and openly
announce the Truth with fearless faith and doubtless conviction!
Jai Shri Ganapathi,
jagbir
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