Shri Mataji: "The ultimate act against the Spirit is to worship that which has no Spirit"
"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste". [Yajurved 40:9]
Translation 1.
They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example
air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc).
They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti
means created things, for example table, chair, idol etc.)
[Yajurved 40:9]
Translation 2.
"Deep into shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers.
They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent."
[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith pg 538]
Translation 3.
"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance
and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated,
eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the
All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti,
such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God
are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely
foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly
for a long time."
[Yajur Veda 40:9.]
"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no image of Him."[Yajurveda 32:3]
"Ekam evadvitiyam"
"He is One only without a second." [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2]
"Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."
"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord." [Svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]
"Na tasya pratima asti"
"There is no likeness of Him." [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]
"shudhama poapvidham"
"He is bodiless and pure." [Yajurveda 40:8]
"Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."
"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."
[Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]
The religion of the Veda knows no idols
"The religion of the Veda knows no idols," says Max Müller; "the
worship of idols in India is a secondary formation, a degradation of
the more primitive worship of ideal gods."
The stone idols have drowned the world
Kabeer, some buy idols and worship them; In their stubborn-
mindedness, they make pilgrimages to sacred shrines.
They look at one another, and wear religious robes, but they are
deluded and lost.
Kabeer, someone sets up a stone idol and all the world worships it as
the Lord.
Those who hold to this belief will be drowned in the river of
darkness.
Kabeer, the paper is the prison, and the ink of rituals are the bars
on the windows.
The stone idols have drowned the world, and the pandits, the
religious scholars, have plundered it on the way.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib (Shaloks Of Kabeer Jee:, p. 1371.)
The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them
In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, O Nanak, the Jinn, the demons, have
taken birth.
The son is a demon, the daughter is a demon, and the wife is the
chief of the demons.
The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord; they are going the wrong
way.
As Naarad instructed them, they worship idols. They are blind and
mute, the blindest of the blind.
The ignorant fools pick up stones and worship them.
But when those stones themselves sink, how will they carry you across?
Sri Guru Granth Sahib (Shalok, p. 556.)
"The idol gives not the hungry and saves not the dying."
“IDOL WORSHIP
PART 1. INTRODUCTION
Sikhism believes in One immortal formless God. The God of all people regardless of religion or race. God is self-illumined, without fear, sans enmity. Truth is Gods name.
PART 2. THE STONE GODS
The Guru Granth Sahib rejects any worship of physical items such as stone idols, animals or plants. The worship of images, tombs or sacred stones is also rejected.
"They, who say the stone is God; in vain is their service. He, who falls at the feet of the stone; vain goes his labour. My Lord ever speaks. The Lord gives gifts to all the living beings. The Lord is within, but the blind one knows not. Deluded by doubt, he is caught in a noose. The stone speaks not, nor gives anything. In vain are the ceremonies of the idolater, and fruitless his service."(Guru Granth Sahib, Arjan Dev, P.1160)
"The idol gives not the hungry and saves not the dying."(Guru Granth Sahib, Nanak, P.1240)
PART 3. THE HINDU IDOLS
Although Guru Nanak's parents were Hindus, he rejected the theory of the Hindu stone gods. Since most of the Sikhs are originally from India it has been difficult to rid themselves of this concept.
"The Hindus have forgotten the Primal Lord and are going the wrong way. As Narad instructed so worship they idols. They are blind, dumb and the blindest of the blind. The ignorant fools take stones and worship them. Those stones when they themselves sink, how shall they ferry thee across?" (Guru Granth Sahib, Nanak,P.556)
PART 4. PLUCKING LEAVES FOR STONE GODS
The idol worshipper plucks leaves from flowers and then they throw them over the stone idols. The verses below show that plucking the leaves kills life for a useless cause.
"Thou tearest off the leaves, O lady gardener but in every leaf there is life. The stone (idol) for which thou pluckest the leaves, that stone is life-less. In this, thou art mistaken, O lady gardener. The True Guru is the living Lord." (Guru Granth Sahib, Kabir, P.479)
"The blind ignorant ones stray in doubt and so deluded, deluded they pluck flowers for worship. They worship the lifeless stones and adore tombs. Their service all goes in vain." (Guru Granth Sahib, Ram Das, P.1264
PART 5. CONCLUSION
The worship of idols in any form does not free the mind to doing services of just cause. The rewards are none to them, the reward achieved in their lives are of consequence and not the result of idol worship. People always need some sort of hope when their minds are not yet enlightened. The philosophy of The Guru Granth Sahib takes one to a higher plane of thinking to rid the mind rituals.”
www.compusmart.ab.ca/suki/idol.htm
Monotheism proves then, the pointlessness of idols and of
images that come between man and God.
“If we consider the most ancient evidence left by homo sapiens, we
can see that man has always been aware of the existence of a Supreme
Being, who is Lord of all things and of all living creatures.
Using every conceivable means, human beings of every era have always
tried to show their feelings of deep respect (and reverence) towards
God and to perform what is due to their Creator.
This is why Islam has always stressed the possibility of direct
communication with God. Even those who have fallen into idolatry have
never denied the existence of the Creator, but have simply put their
idols and images in His place. And this is still happening today.
This being the case, how can we recognise a true prophet and what is
his or her mission?
The mission of the prophets is to reveal the will of God, that is, to
provide a logical and tangible explanation of religion as it is
experienced in our daily lives.
Genuine monotheism - the belief in a Supreme Being - means (or
implies) the unshakeable oneness of the whole creation between man
and God. Monotheism proves then, the pointlessness of idols and of
images that come between man and God. The mission of the prophets is
thus to set human beings on the right track, and in order to do this,
the prophets have used two parrallel and complementary paths:
- the way of learning, based on theology and philosophy
- and the way of Self-Knowledge or Self-Realisation
This is why we find in our Holy Book, the Koran, both scholastic discourse and phrases which hint at
the "way in" to knowledge of the Highest Self. The concrete means of
putting this message into practise is what is offered to us in this
age by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.
To back up this Truth, if you will allow me. I will quote these words
of the Prophet Mahomet, who tells us: "God is closer to man than his
own veins." And the Prophet says: "With the knowledge of the Spirit,
man will begin to know himself, so as to finally achieve knowledge of
God." "With the purification of his inner being, man becomes
conscious that he is the Spirit."
It is thus the experience of spontaneous Self Realisation - which is
revealed by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi - and Sahaja Yoga - which is the
practise which she teaches - both spontaneous Self Realisation and
Sahaja Yoga are in perfect harmony with the teachings of Islam. It is
because of this revelation by Shri Mataji that I have wanted to speak
to you tonight."
Ayatollah Dr. Mehdi Rouhani
(Address delivered by Ayatollah Dr. Mehdi Rouhani at the Royal Albert Hall on
Thursday 3rd July 1997)
"This union of Atma and Shakti as the protector of one's existence is important to understand . . . At a practical level what this means is that if one goes against the Spirit, identifying with anything apart from it, the heart 'catches'...
When we come to Sahaja Yoga the Tantra is damaged and impure and the heart 'catches.' There is nothing to be upset in that. One should settle down silently and work to undo the 'catches,' gradually and slowly. The whole Library of Divine Knowledge is at one's hand and if the heart's desire to evolve the being and achieve the Absolute is pure, the solution to every problem will occur automatically, effortlessly and spontaneously — Sahaj.
The ultimate act against the Spirit is to worship that which has no Spirit — gross matter or raksasas. Shri Muhammad inveighed against both.... The Atma and its expression is the sole Reality in the Universe. Identification with anything else causes the heart to 'catch.' "
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
Question: How does one discard all the organization and useless activities (of Sahaja Yoga) and seek her (Holy Spirit/Adi Shakti) only in the Sahastrara (Kingdom of God)?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am still unable to rid myself of catches and other chakra problems despite years of daily (Sahaja Yoga) footsoaking and treatments. What do I do now?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am far from a Sahaja Yoga collective. How do I continue practicing Sahaja Yoga?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: My collective leader has told me to leave Sahaja Yoga due to some personal problems. What do I do now?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: Despite being years in Sahaja Yoga I do not agree with what our leaders are doing. I am thinking of leaving my collective. Can you suggest something that will help me continue on my own?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am a Muslim who absolutely am against worshipping of any idol or image. How then is Sahaja Yoga and Shri Mataji compatible with Islam?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: We are devout Christians who are very uncomfortable with Hindu rituals, and see the same in Sahaja Yoga. Is there any way we can do without such rituals?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: You loudly claim on your website that all religions and holy scriptures preach the same message. I don't see such evidence. What have you got to say?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I do not want to meditate on anything non-Christian but agree that the Holy Spirit is feminine. How do I only worship the Holy Spirit but not the Adi Shakti?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: My parents and husband are against worshipping Shri Mataji. How can I solve this serious family problem but still continue to practice Sahaja Yoga without their knowledge?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I completely agree with your belief that if you have to take a single step in any direction to seek the Divine you are going the wrong way. How and why did you reach this incredible conclusion only now despite spending so many years meditating, checking the scriptures and listening to Shri Mataji's speeches?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: How can we spread Shri Mataji's message successfully? So many have failed all these years and Sahaja Yoga is very slow. Most of the seekers have never heard of Shri Mataji. Other than Her Divine Message what can we teach new seekers that will attract them?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I do not want to follow any religious organization or yoga teacher but still am interested in spirituality. You think that is possible?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: My mother-in-law is totally against Shri Mataji and regards Her as just another false guru. But I know Shri Mataji is the Adi Shakti and want to continue. However, i do not want to antagonize my mother-in-law. Any suggestions?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am a Sikh. I am completely against any Hindu ritual or worshipping of their idols and gods. Sikhism is completely against such practices. But Sahaja Yoga is also so full of such rituals and gods. What have you got to say, being a Sikh yourself?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am getting somewhat ridiculed for my own spiritual experiences regarding the crown chakra and the divine feminine. People think I'm weird by emphasizing that the Devi is the true nature of brahman and it is creating doubt about my path (despite my own experiences). Should I continue with my meditations and ignore them or try to explain to them? What do you suggest?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: There is so much information about yoga and meditation. I am so confused and do not know which path to take. What then is the truth? How do I attain it?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I have been in Sahaja Yoga for years but still do not know what is Self-realization. Can you tell me in detail what you understand by it?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I have been a SY for many years and some of us find shoe- beating and some rituals quite absurd. You also are against them. How then can we solve our subtle system problems without such treatments?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am a Muslim living in Pakistan who want to practice Sahaja Yoga. But there are no centers here. How can I continue?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: What will happen after Shri Mataji passes away? Will She still be in the photograph? Where will the vibrations come from then?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I have just started meditating on Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara but find it very difficult. Is there a better way?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I do not want to join Sahaja Yoga but believe in a number of Shri Mataji's teachings. Can you help me?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I am an established SYogini who am concerned at the way the organization is heading. However, I still want to spread Shri Mataji's teachings. What do you suggest I tell others?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: I want to practice meditation but find it impossible to stop the thoughts. I value you opinion. If you don't mind my asking, but how do you do it?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: What is the shortest and surest route to realize God?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: Some religions claim that humans are divine in nature and that liberation is from within. Can you tell me how all this is realized in such a hectic and materialistic world?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: As a SY I am concerned that after Shri Mataji takes Mahasamadhi there will great grief and sense of loss. How can I cope with this eventuality and continue my faith and devotion? Do I continue to meditate on Her photo even though She is not physically present anymore?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: Jagbir, you are already telling us to discard Shri Mataji's photo and meditate on Her is the Sahasrara. A number of SYs have been offended by this and have left the forum. What makes you so sure you are right?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: What is the most profound and deepest enlightenment you have discovered after all these years, based on the teachings of Shri Mataji? She also claims that all religions teach the same truth about the spirit. How is that so given all the religious differences and centuries-old rivalry?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: Hi, man-made religions, sects and denominations are wide spread. So much misdeeds and divisions are committed and blood is shed in the name of God and religion. Is there a way to make humans realize that they are all worshipping the One and same Creator, no matter how different religious organizations have made God to be?
Answer: Silence on Self
Question: It seems that religions are all preaching about a God that is to be found only in their organizations. Why then is it that the Divine can only be realized through one's own experience? What and where is God then?
Answer: Silence on Self
Articles based on Shri Mataji quotes:
"A day will dawn when whole world would bow to this country India"
"A great war is taking place between satanic forces and Divine Forces"
"About Sahasrara nowhere in the scriptures something was described"
"Achieve your Self, become your Self"
"After all we are all human beings created by one God"
"All the people laugh at us, nobody believes us."
"All these rituals have entered into Sahaja Yoga."
"Among Muslims there are Sufis... who are realized souls"
"And now the time has come for it to be blasted.
"Announce it to all the seekers of truth, to all the nations."
"But if you put one little fish and two eggs for ten people"
"But the Muslims do not want to talk about Resurrection at all"
"But this Judgment is so beautiful ... you enjoy the bliss of your Spirit"
"But you know that you have eternal life. You can never die."
"Death does not exist for you — It is finished... your spirit is free."
"Do not destroy your spirit by going to such people."
"Every religion has said you have to have Self-realization"
"For all people whom I gave Self Realization yesterday"
"He (Jesus) was the Holiest of the Holy. You accept that position."
"I don't care for your protocols and rituals. It is nonsense for me."
"I have to warn all the SYs ... Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment"
"I must say they are committing the greatest sin ..."
"I was with Him (Guru Nanak Ji), in fact with all of Them." - 1
"I was with Him (Guru Nanak Ji), in fact with all of Them." - 2
".... if you see around the world is in chaos"
"Indians have no goal as far as spiritual life is concerned"
"It is the greatest event of all spiritual happenings of the Universe."
"It means the Last Judgment has begun with full force"
"It will be slowly revealed by Me because ..."
"It's not for medium, mediocre people to do this job."
"Like all the thieves of the world ... have taken over."
"Many people ask Me questions: "What about death?"
"Meditation is not to sit before the photograph"
"My actual sign name is Lalita ... the name of the Primordial Mother"
"No hypocrisy, otherwise you will spoil the name of Sahaja Yoga."
"No reality in those religions...no Divine Force working"
"Nobody has to change dresses or anything - it’s nothing outside."
"Now if you say the Thousand Names of the Goddess"
"Now watch. I will change the direction of the waves."
"Otherwise the world would say that we never knew about it."
"Pure knowledge is not of chakras, vibrations, kundalini but of God"
"Self-Realization will progressively lead to the creation of a new race"
"Tell Jagbir now to leave it to Her."
"The consciousness is moving more towards the feminine expression"
"The expression of the Adi Shakti within you is the Kundalini."
"The nonsense of Christianity has nothing to do with Christ."
"The Reality is so beautiful. It is just lying ahead of us."
"The time has come for you to get all that is promised"
"The ultimate act against Spirit is to worshi that which has no Spirit"
"The whole Cosmos is waiting for their arrival."
"There is so much blind faith, there is so much of wrong ideas"
"There should be no fear of death but on the contrary should be ..."
"They are stagnated at the point of dharma, so they start telling ..."
"They came to Sahaja but they said "We cannot worship Goddess."
"They made Christ look like a TB patient"
"What Christ said, what Krishna said, and what Muhammad said is ..."
"Why did you decide that you may replace Me with someone else?"
"You have all the control ... to take your soul wherever you feel like"
"You have such a unique Light within you."
"You have to enter into the Kingdom of God"
"Your job is, in a way, greater than the saints and sages."
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